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Ramsey
is the English spelling, Ramsay the Scottish.  But
both Ramsey
and Ramsay
have derived from the same source – a market town
named Ramsey in Huntingdonshire not too far from the Essex border.  Ramsey Abbey had been founded there as a
Benedictine abbey in 969 and the name Rameseia
appeared in the 1086 Domesday Book. The
root of the name was the Old English word bramsa
meaning
“wild garlic” and eg, “island” or
“strip of land in a fen.”
A Norman baron from Huntingdonshire brought the Ramsay
name to Scotland in the 12th century; while Ramsey emerged as a surname
in
England in Ramsey, Huntingdonshire in the 13th and 14th centuries..

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Scotland.  David, the Scottish
King’s brother, was also the Earl of Huntingdon and
he was accompanied by a number of young Norman barons to Scotland in
1124 – including,
it is thought, Symon de Ramesie.

Symon was granted lands in Midlothian
by David around the year 1140.  He is
considered the founder of the main Ramsay line in Scotland.  He was also the first to have had lands at
Dalhousie and to have started construction of Dalhousie
Castle
there.

These Ramsays felt the
force of English aggression during and after the Wars of Scottish
Independence:

  • William Ramsay was captured by the
    English at the Battle of Neville’s Cross in 1346, yet lived to tell the
    tale.
  • Sir Alexander Ramsay held out at Dalhousie Castle in 1400
    against a six-month
    siege by the English.
  • while Alexander’s descendant, another Alexander Ramsay, was
    killed by the English at the Battle of Flodden Field in 1513.

But later they
became firm supporters of the British Crown.
They went onto serve in all of the great campaigns of the 18th
and 19th
centuries – in Europe, Canada, and India.
  General
George Ramsay,
Lord Dalhousie, was one of Wellington’s generals, a colonial
administrator in
Canada and, at the end of his life, Commander-in-Chief in India.  His son James was Governor General of India
from 1847 to 1856.


There
were other Ramsay lines. 
Ramsay
lairds from Angus (Forfarshire), Fife, and the
Border country appeared on the Ragman’s Roll of 1296, in addition to
the
Dalhousie Ramsays:

  • the
    Auchterhouse line in Angus and the
    Forthar line in Fife date from the 13th century, although
    the male line in each case died out two centuries later.
  • while
    the Ramsays of Bamff
    in Perthshirehave lasted much longer.  They
    were descended from Nessus de Ramsay, physician to
    Alexander II,
    who was granted these lands in 1232.  Bamff
    House was built in the late 16th century and it remains in the hands of
    Ramsay
    descendants.

A
Ramsay line from Dalhousie did extend southward to the Scottish
borders where they were established at Foulden in Berwickshire until
the early
1600’s.  Sir William Ramsay of Foulden died in a duel
against the Englishman
Sir Edward Bohun in the 1330’s.  George
Ramsay, the last of the line, was a well-known Border reiver
who died at Foulden in 1592.

By the mid-19th century, the largest number of
Ramsays in Scotland were to be found in Midlothian, Angus, and
Lanarkshire.

England.  The
first Ramsey of note at Ramsey in Huntingdonshire was William de
Ramsey, a 13th
century Benedictine monk who wrote about the lives of the saints in
verse.  There followed the de Ramsey master
masons of
the next century, first John and then William who was a prominent
Gothic
architect of his day.

“In 1337 William de Ramsey was made chief
mason of the King
at the Tower of London and chief overseer of the king’s works in all
his
castles on the south side of the river Trent.
The appointment was for one robe annually, with ten pence per
day paid
at the Exchequer.”


John Ramsey was recorded in Ramsey in 1435; and another John
Ramsey held its office of hay warden in 1473
.

The Ramsey name had extended to the market town of
Edenbridge in Kent by the late 1400’s.
There were five children of John Ramsey of Edenbridge, one of
whom –
Thomas – was a successful merchant in London who became its Lord Mayor
in
1577.  He died in 1590 but left no
children
.


The
Ramsey name did also extend
into Essex and London, either from Huntingdonshire or from the Ramsey
hamlet on
the river Stour in north Essex.  However, the native English
Ramseys have been
outnumbered by the Scots Ramsays who came into England.

Some arrived in London
at the time of the accession of James of Scotland to the English throne
in
1603.  These included John Ramsay, a
royal favorite who had been a page at court, and Robert Ramsay, a court
musician who also followed the King to London.

But most crossed into northern
England.  It was noteworthy that the
further a Ramsay left Scotland the more likely was it that the name
would
change to Ramsey.  In the 1891 English
census, the Ramsay/Ramsey ratio was:

  • 1.4
    in Northumberland
  • 0.8
    in Durham
  • and
    0.4 in Yorkshire.

Arthur
Ramsey, the
distinguished mathematician, came from Dewsbury in Yorkshire.  His son Michael Ramsey was Archbishop of
Canterbury from 1961 to 1974.


Finland
.
In 1573, some 3,000 Scots went to fight for the Swedish king in his
Scandinavian wars, including two Dalhousie Ramsays.
For payment, they were granted lands in
Finland.  John Ramsay became Hans Ramsay and stayed.
The line has continued to the present day.  There
was a surprising Ramsay reunion in
Finland
in 1907
.

Ireland.

Ramsey in Ireland is a Scottish implant, predominantly in
Ulster, that
began with the plantations there in the 17th century.
Many left for America during the 18th century.
The largest numbers have been in Antrim
.


America.  It was more Scots and Scots Irish Ramsays that
came to America.  Ramsey may have been seen as the more American
spelling.  Many changed their spelling after the Revolutionary
War.  The
spelling today is mainly Ramsey.

Virginia.
William Ramsay of Scottish Presbyterian stock sailed along
the coast of Virginia in 1749 with two other Scots settlers in search
of a suitable port for the trading of tobacco.  They found and
chose the name of Alexandria.  William Ramsay was one of its
founding trustees and his name is still commemorated there today:

  • Colonel
    Dennis Ramsay, his son, served as mayor of Alexandria and was a
    pallbearer at
    President
    George Washington’s funeral held there
    .
  • and his descendants remained active in local affairs.
    William T. Ramsay’s 1999 book The
    Ramsays: First Family of Alexandria
    covered this line.

Pennsylvania.
More early Ramseys and Ramsays, most of them Scots Irish, arrived or
settled in Pennsylvania.

William Ramsey was an early settler in Warwick, Bucks
county in 1741.  His grandson Robert was a Pennsylvanian
Congressman in the 1830’s.

James Ramsay came to farm in Lancaster county around the same
time.  He had two notable sons – Nathaniel Ramsey, a
Congressman in Maryland, and David Ramsay who settled in South Carolina
and made his name as an early historian of the American
Revolution.  David was murdered on the streets of Charleston in
1815 by an angry insane man.

Alexander Ramsay had immigrated into Delaware before settling
in Adams county sometime in the 1750’s.  His son Reynolds built a
merchant mill there and his grandson Francis was born there.  Colonel Francis Ramsey, as he became after the
Revolutionary War, moved first to Greene county, Tennessee in 1783 and
then to Knoxville.  He was one of its early settlers and made his
home, Ramsey
House
, at Swan Pond.  Frederic Ramsey’s 1982 book Ramsey of Swan Pond covered this
family history.

Another Alexander Ramsey came with his father to York, Pennsylvania
sometime in the 1760’s.   His grandson, also named Alexander,
moved west to Minnesota where he served as its Governor in the 1850’s
when it was still a territory and its Senator in the 1860’s and 1870’s
when Minnesota had become a state. The Alexander Ramsey House in
Minnesota has been preserved as a museum.


Canada.  
Most Ramsey/Ramsay immigrants to Canada were
Scottish and the name there has generally remained Ramsay.

The Ramsays of Kildalton were a
redoubtable family of malters and distillers from the island of Islay
in
Argyllshire.  Times were tough in the
1820’s and Robert Ramsay departed for Montreal where he developed a
saddling
business; whilst his eldest son Thomas involved himself in shipbuilding
in New
Brunswick.

A younger son John stayed at
home to look after family’s interests.
His tenants, however, were impoverished and in 1862 he arranged
for some
400 of these Islay people to move to Canada.
They settled in various places in Ontario. In
1870 he journeyed to Canada to visit
them.  His diary of that trip was later
published.

Some Ramsays headed West.  Silas
Ramsay from Quebec came to the Calgary
area in Alberta to hunt buffalo as early as 1870.  He
later was a businessman there and served
as the town mayor in 1903.  It is not
quite clear whether the Ramsay suburb of Calgary was named after him or
after William
Ramsay, an early land agent in the area.

Australia.  One Ramsay
family in Australia can be considered Scots Irish, their forebear
William
having left Scotland for Athlone in Roscommon around the year 1800.  Son Robert, like his father, joined the
British army.  At the end of his service
in 1851 Robert came to Freemantle in Western Australia as a guard for
convicts
being transported from England (he and his family thereby receiving
free
passages).  Robert’s descendants spread
across Australia – to South Australia, northern NSW, and Queensland.

Another Scots Irish family comprised the sons and
daughters of Francis and Jane Ramsey of Fermanagh who came to Australia
in the
1860’s and settled in and around Candelo, NSW.

Ramsays from Scotland have included:

  • Dr. David Ramsay from Perthshire, the son of a corn
    merchant, who travelled
    the world as a ship’s surgeon before coming to Sydney in 1824 to settle.  He married a year later and received the
    Dobroyde farm on the outskirts of Sydney as his dowry.    
  • William Ramsay from Angus who came on the
    Morning Star
    to Port Adelaide in 1862 under an assisted passage
    scheme.  He was lucky to arrive because
    many died during the voyage.  He and his
    wife Eliza eventually settled to farm in Hope Valley, SA.
    Although
    life was not easy for William and Eliza
    , it was
    said that they were hard workers, raised their children and made a
    valuable
    contribution to the Hope Valley area.
      
  • and then
    there were two Ramsay family arrivals from Glasgow to Melbourne in 1878.  First came John and Margaret Ramsay,
    well-to-do, who made their home at the Clydebank estate in Essendon.  Their son Hugh was a well-known Australian
    painter.  John Ramsay arrived in the same
    year and became a successful real estate broker.  He
    too lived in Essendon.  His son William
    developed the famous Kiwi brand
    of shoe polish.

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Allan
Ramsay

was an 18th century Scottish poet who started the country’s first
circulating
library in Edinburgh.  He is best
remembered for his pastoral work The
Gentle Shepherd
.  His son Allan was a
well-known portrait painter
.
General George Ramsay, Lord Dalhousie, was
an army general under Wellington and later a colonial administrator in
Canada.
William Ramsay
was the
Australian entrepreneur who developed the famous Kiwi brand
of shoe polish in 1906.
Sir Alf Ramsey
was the
English football manager in 1966 when England won the World Cup.
Gordon
Ramsay
is a British TV chef and restauranteur famous for his bad
tempe
r.

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  • 20,000 in the UK (most numerous
    in Lanarkshire)
  • 31,000 in America (most numerous in Texas)
  • 11,000 elsewhere (most numerous in Australia)

 

 

 

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